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Re: cheap pxe enabled ethernet adapters




Richard,

Try having a look at 
www.disklessworkstations.com
they advertise a PCI Ethernet 100Mb (Cat5 UTP) NIC
with  BootROM for 35 US dollars if I remember
correctly.
Alternatively, they sell pre-burnt ROM's too.

I'm thinking of using them as a supplier so any
feedback would be appreciated.

HTH
Paul

--- Richard C Ferri <rcferri@us.ibm.com> wrote: > 
> 
> Marty,
>      Thanks for your response.  I guess what I
> really want is the ability
> to boot my nodes remotely without having to use a
> boot diskette.  From your
> note, that means I could use netboot or pxe
> technology.  I didn't realize I
> had a choice -- I assumed pxe was synonymous with
> diskette-less boot, and
> netboot always required diskettes to boot -- I see
> now that that is not the
> case.
>      Since I don't have a ROM burner, and I'm not
> sure I have the patience
> to invest in writing my own EPROMs (I'm more a
> software guy, I like my
> hardware "commodity off the shelf") I guess I'm back
> to either the eepro100
> or 3com that you mention.    You know, since IBM
> makes an eepro100 card,
> and I work for IBM, maybe I could actually *order*
> some internally... no,
> it's too much to ask ;-)
> 
> thanks again, Rich
> 
> Marty Connor <mdc@thinguin.org>@baghira.han.de on
> 01/15/2001 05:18:37 PM
> 
> Please respond to netboot@baghira.han.de
> 
> Sent by:  owner-netboot@baghira.han.de
> 
> 
> To:   "Netboot List" <netboot@baghira.han.de>
> cc:   Richard C Ferri/Poughkeepsie/IBM@IBMUS
> Subject:  Re: cheap pxe enabled ethernet adapters
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 1/15/2001 3:24 PM Richard C Ferri
> rcferri@us.ibm.com wrote:
> >Hi everyone,
> >     I'm looking for a reasonably priced ethernet
> adapter that is pxe
> >enabled for network boot.  I have to buy about a
> dozen of them for my lab,
> >so cost is an issue.
> 
> Interesting question.  Being an Etherboot developer,
> if you hadn't
> specifically asked for PXE I'd suggest using
> Etherboot, but I'm sure you
> have your reasons for wanting PXE, and so here is
> some advice...
> 
> >I have an eepro100 (etherjet) adpater which PXE
> boots
> >nicely,  but the going price is about $75USD per
> adapter, and that's
> >expensive.  Can anyone suggest a cheaper adapter? 
> I don't quite
> understand
> >the disparity between the typical PCI ethernet
> adapter which is about
> >$15USD, and the eepro100, which is 5 times more
> expensive...   from what I
> >understand the PXE elemet is only a couple of
> dollars more...
> 
> The eepro/100+ has expensive flash ROM on it, the
> Intel brand (and
> associated advertising costs), and it's a fast,
> well-made card.  3Com has
> a card in the same price range 3c905c-tx-m that has
> PXE in flash ROM as
> well.  The advantage being that you can update the
> card's flash without
> having to replace a ROM.  In the case of the 3Com,
> you can do it while
> the card is running.  Pretty nice.  (we've been able
> to develop tools and
> techniques as part of the Etherboot project to flash
> Etherboot code into
> those cards as well).
> 
> >     Anyway, I'd appreciate any suggestions for a
> reasonably priced pxe
> >enabled ethernet adapter... thanks in advance.
> 
> Well, here's what you might consider doing.  Try a
> cheap rtl8139-based
> card. Many if not most of the less expensive cards
> are RTL8139 based.
> ADDTRON makes a nice little one. I've seen them for
> about 12$US in
> stores, with ROM socket.  Linux supports them.  Now
> you need a PXE boot
> ROM.
> 
> Check out:
> 
>   
>
http://www.bootix.com/us/products/promtypes.shtml#Realtek
> 
> and:
> 
>    http://www.bootix.com/us/price/pxeprom.shtml
> 
> There's your (commercial) PXE boot ROM.  16$US
> apiece (qty discounts
> available).
> 
> So you put a 16$ bootrom on a 12$ PCI 10/100 card,
> and theoretically, you
> have a PXE-enabled card for less than 30$US (figure
> tax and shipping,
> etc).  With volume discounts, perhaps less than
> 20$US.  Of course you
> have to do some work to make it work, and your time
> is worth something,
> but it might still be a win.
> 
> Now a ROM itself is probably 3$US, so if you could
> use Etherboot or
> Netboot or NILO (http://nilo.sourceforge.net/) you
> wouldn't have to pay
> so much for a boot ROM (which may well cost more
> than the whole ethernet
> card).  You'd need to get a ROM burner or have the
> ROMs burned, however,
> so that could add cost if you don't have that
> capability in-house.
> 
> So that's my initial, off-the-cuff impression to get
> you going;  there
> are possibly others who have implemented PXE on
> inexpensive cards that
> can make other suggestions.
> 
> I hope this helps you.
> 
> Marty
> 
> ---
>     Try: http://rom-o-matic.net/ to make Etherboot
> images instantly.
> 
>    Name: Martin D. Connor
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> 
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